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Monday, March 26, 2012

Premium LLLL.com Value Rises 101% In Less Three Weeks

Thanks to Dominik for pointing me to the new LLLL price guide published by Reece Berg. Reece is an LLLL investor with a portfolio of over 1800 domains, he is also a moderator at the NamePros community. His last price guide was published on December 18th.

Pricing Your Domains for Sale With Confidence
What do your prices say about your domain names for sale?Read below for some suggestions and tips for pricing your domains for sale.
Selling an $8 domain name!You’re saying, “I have a domain name that is not valuable and I don’t really want it.” This is an attempt to get your registration fee (domain investment) back. Destined to expire.Selling a $25 domain name!You’re saying, “This domain has moderate value to me but I would like to get it off my hands and double my money. Good luck reselling this name for more.” A good price for flipping a hand registration at a surprisingly big profit percentage.Selling a $50 domain name!You’re saying, “I may have planned on using this domain name for my own project. This domain has good potential for an end user or earns a little revenue of some kind.” If this domain provides a benefit to the buyer in any way, they will probably be willing to pay.Selling a $100 domain name!Be careful with this one. What you should be saying, “My domain has premium letters and a clearly defined purpose.” What you could be saying, “I don’t really want to sell this domain right now so I’m just pricing it high or it could be that I really don’t know how much this domain is worth.” Probably less.Selling a $1000 domain name!You’re saying, “Premium domain for sale!” If you have done your research and have a premium domain. Take note, premium domains come in many different forms; LLL’s, sweet LLLL’s (4 letter domains), generic terms, prime keywords, profitable industries and brand names to name a few. Try to market your premium domains to end users or place them in publicized auctions to get the most out of your investment.Take these recommendations with a grain of salt, they are merely my reflections from my experience in domain sales. I can say that I own premium domain names, but I have not sold one yet. I personally like to sell the majority of my domain names for $35, please view prices at my portfolio of domains for sale. I would love to hear your comments/critiques regarding my pricing tips.

LLLL Values Are UpDomains with four premium letters increased in value by 101% with an average sale price of $303 up from $151 on Dec. 18th. Here are some examples of these types of names: CGLP.com, VYYY.com, GCBL.com, PDOP.com, UJIL.com, EDIJ.com, LSAL.com, HMCT, PPRD.com.The minimum wholesale price for LLLL domains averaged $14. Regardless of quality of letters, registering any LLLL.com domain that expires can net you at least 200% profit! According to the report, if you’re looking to invest some money into four letter domains, the best deals can be found at NamePros, eBay, and TDNAM.Summary of LLLL.com SalesSales under $150.00 represented 15.7% of LLLL.com spending, bringing in $39,965 out of $255,053 reportedly spent on LLLL.coms in December. …there were 228 sales over $150, largely dominated by quad premiums, CVCV’s and VCVC’s. These 228 sales brought in $224,288.50 for an average of $983.72 (each). Median price in the $150+ category was $309.50.Total of $255,053 spent on LLLL.com domains in December.Interesting ExclusionsThese notable LLLL domain sales were excluded from the report so they would not skew data.XIAN.com fetched $40,000. It is the name of a city in China.VSIA.com, a typo of VISA sold for $10,000.

Sunday, March 25, 2012

Domain investment guide : Keywords with Highest Cost Per Click

For all domain investors,Here you go, this list is current:

Always remember buy and develop websites with high CPC so that you will get paid more for each click.
Rank Term CPC
1 donate car to charity california $130.25
2 donate car for tax credit $126.65
3 donate cars in ma $125.58
4 donate your car sacramento $118.20
5 how to donate a car in california $111.21
6 donate your car for kids $106.01
7 car insurance quotes colorado $100.93
8 nunavut culture $99.52
9 dayton freight lines $99.39
10 harddrive data recovery services $98.59
11 donate a car in maryland $98.51
12 motor replacements $98.43
13 cheap domain registration hosting $98.39
14 donating a car in maryland $98.20
15 donate cars illinois $98.13
16 criminal defense attorneys florida $98.07
17 best criminal lawyer in arizona $97.93
18 car insurance quotes utah $97.92
19 life insurance co lincoln $97.07
20 holland michigan college $95.74
21 online motor insurance quotes $95.73
22 online colledges $95.65
23 paperport promotional code $95.13
24 onlineclasses $95.06
25 world trade center footage $95.02
26 massage school dallas texas $94.90
27 psychic for free $94.61
28 donate old cars to charity $94.55
29 low credit line credit cards $94.49
30 dallas mesothelioma attorneys $94.33
31 car insurance quotes mn $94.29
32 donate your car for money $94.01
33 cheap auto insurance in va $93.84
34 met auto $93.70
35 forensics online course $93.51
36 home phone internet bundle $93.32
37 donating used cars to charity $93.17
38 phd in counseling education $92.99
39 neuson $92.89
40 car insurance quotes pa $92.88
41 royalty free images stock $92.76
42 car insurance in south dakota $92.72
43 0 apr on balance transfers for 12 months $92.63
44 webex costs $92.38
45 cheap car insurance for ladies $92.23
46 cheap car insurance in virginia $92.03
47 register free domains $92.03
48 better conferencing calls $91.44
49 futuristic architecture $91.44
50 mortgage adviser $91.29
51 auto insurance quote new jersey $90.98
52 criminal justice accredited degree $90.61
53 la patagonia $90.57
54 cheapest car hire malaga airport $90.53
55 operator assisted teleconferencing $90.36
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57 dallas real estate license $90.10
58 semi dedicated servers $90.07
59 auto insurance in el paso tx $89.83
60 low balance transfers creditcards $89.42
61 balance transfers zero $89.25
62 colorado mesothelioma lawyers $89.19
63 immediate car insurance $88.99
64 swan foods delivery $88.93
65 country vet supplies $88.90
66 studet credit card $88.83
67 car insurance free quotes online $88.24
68 car insurance quote nj $88.22
69 web site design cheap $87.85
70 masters in education online degree $87.76
71 0 interest transfer balances $87.66
72 find out your family history free $87.49
73 injury lawyers in nj $87.32
74 course online medical billing and coding $87.26
75 fire and water damage restoration company $87.23
76 uop com $87.09
77 bcbg clothes online $87.00
78 hosted dedicated servers $86.54
79 18000 flowers $86.50
80 create adwords account $86.14
81 donate cars in maryland $86.13
82 host free domain $86.09
83 free email logo $86.07
84 txt att $85.27
85 unmetered dedicated hosting $85.16
86 domain registration bulk $85.13
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92 downy com $83.93
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94 toyota new vehicles $83.43
95 email bulk service $83.26
96 pbx small system $83.11
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Saturday, March 24, 2012

Domain name investment business what you can expect as a return for your investment

I don't have all the answers and I don't have to. Just a few will do. Like you, I can only guess. Speculate. Put my money on it and see how it all unfolds.

When I was a kid I remember when the Empire State Building was sold for $12 Million and everyone was stunned how anyone can overpay so much. Sex.com sold for more than the Empire State Building. Fast forward and now we are talking many billions. They are even taking the building public to raise a Billion Dollars.

Las Vegas years ago had nothing but sand and a vision. A longshot vision.

I can tell this story 100 ways from 100 views and another 100 paths on each. Here is only ONE of many ways I see what I do and domains in general.

I would describe what my business plan like this as a real world type parallel..

1. My first hurdle was to figure out how to afford to hold and maintain many domain names for 20 years.

2. Buy raw dotcom land in many places throughout the USA with potential for commercial development.

3. Focus on Oceanfront, Riverfront, close to ocean or river.

4. Try and target Times Square for advertising and Las Vegas for sheer people power.

5. Study the development of places like Times Square and Las Vegas.

6. Since I was too late, too young and too broke to participate in that game, I found one that has parallels in a new dimension.

7. So imagine it is 1948 and you are in Las Vegas. There is just SAND! There is nothing else.

8. Build it and they will come and so they do.

9. I see this new thing happening and realize that there may be many ways to capitalize on something like this if it were to work even if gambling is not your business.

10. So the first road is paved and now there is a street.

11. Let’s call this street (Las Vegas Blvd) Dotcom Blvd

12. I have a few extra dollars and decide to buy some land on Dotcom Blvd.

13. I decided it will be many years before it will have any value because right now it is just sand and wind.

14. I think if this idea were to unfold the way they say, millions of people will come to Dotcom Blvd in Las Vegas.

15. But SHIT!!! That will take TWENTY YEARS!!

16. I decide it is now or never. If I don’t buy it somebody else may come and buy it. Act NOW or it’s over!

17. I go have lunch and decide to buy the piece of land I was looking at.

18. SHIT!!! Somebody else bought it within the hour.

19. I better go look for another dotcom property.

20. SHIT!!! That one is already sold! (Maybe I can grab his sand and move it?)

21. The third is a charm. I now have my own dotcom sand.

22. Gee these guys are buying multiple properties. What do they see?

23. Gee, these guys are pretty sharp.

24. I think I am going to buy some more dotcom sand

25. I tell others in business, they just laugh at me for buying sand.

26. I try and explain that in 20 years or less this sand will be very valuable because a lot of people will be passing by everyday.

27. They laugh

28. I buy more sand

29. More people laugh

30. I keep talking about this 20 year plan.

31. They laugh

32. I explain about it being a “Unique opportunity in time”

33. They laugh

34. I explain you MUST get the land first if you are to even have a chance at success.

35. They laugh

36. I explain this was an opportunity that my father and grandfather and their fathers before them never had and they should pay attention.

37. They laughed.

38. I bought a major corner on Dotcom Blvd in Las Vegas

39. They stopped laughing but now thought I was insane.

40. I repeated the process 1000 times

41. Others started repeating the process

42. Sand turned into activity.

43. I stood on my sand. I looked at the hotels being built

44. I put up a few billboards on my sand with no advertising

45. The new casinos in town see the billboards

46. One hotel asks to put his name on my billboard

47. I say ok

48. He gives me $1 Million check

49. People passing buy laughing at me for not building.

50. I put some more billboards up

51. More people give me more money

52. I learn about effective billboards

53. I learn about ineffective billboards

54. I learn where folks are going

55. I learn what folks are looking for

56. I open up a short cut to the hotel via a sidewalk on my sand.

57. It saves the folks time and money

58. Casino is willing to pay me more to be exclusive and have all my sidewalks lead to his casino

59. Next thing ya know they need parking spaces

60. They pay me more for my sand then I can earn selling water in the desert.

61. I abandon idea of opening up lemonade stands and decide to open parking lots instead.

62. Parking lots have low overhead and are cash cows

63. That’s what gets me to New York. San Francisco. It’s been YEARS since I was in San Francisco, at that time the rate was $70/day. Most people on earth don’t even make $70 a day. Go tell those parking lots they don’t have a legitimate business and own the priciest of real estate.

64. Gee, that sounds like a good way to do it while I pass the 20 years.

65. Gee look at etoys

66. Gee look at Pets.com

67. Gee, I think it is smarter to wait and learn from their mistakes than pissing away billions of investor dollars on a bag of smoke.

68. Gee impression based advertising is stupid.

69. Gee impression based advertising was like a parking lot stealing all the cars

70. Gee how come that model collapsed and took many down with it?

71. Impression based advertising was like driving a bus down dotcom blvd and simply pointing out the casino. The casino paid to get pointed out but could not have a benefit because the bus and customers were long gone along with the money the casino or all other businesses paid. The bus never stopped to be=ring them the damn customer!

72. Gee that was dumb.

73. Gee, I talked about it constantly in 1998 and 1999.

74. Gee that was what collapsed things in 2000. It had to collapse using that model and it did. It was a flawed and worthless model but they all bought into it.

75. Many walk away

76. I just shrug it off as a learning experience for the totally ignorant and a rip off of epic proportions from those providing those worthless impressions that were not aimed at making sales.

77. Why do I just laugh and shrug it off?

78. I have a 20 year plan.

79. Many laugh

80. Many can’t plan 20 seconds ahead let alone 20 minutes, 20 hours, 20 days, 20 weeks, 20 months, 20 years.

81. Why get educated if you can’t think 20 years in advance.

82. When you look at things like that, everything is merely a blip and the important things are easy to pick out.

83. Those that work real hard and went broke get pissed

84. Those that did not see what was coming get pissed

85. Those that laughed are now pissed and they know the difference between our 2 plans.

86. I will start my projects as sand turns into concrete

87. I don’t even have to open a casino in Las Vegas to make money.

88. Where there are people there are always ways to make money

89. When you understand traffic on Dotcom Blvd. that gives you power and insight that very few have.

90. When you watch and understand that traffic for 20 years you learn things others have never even thought of or questioned.

91. That leads me to buy more sand in more places.

92. See I think developing for the sake of developing is not something I ever wanted to pursue even though I tried numerous times throughout the years.

93. I plan develop by NEED and audience size matched with a profitable good or service.

94. But the dust on the Internet has yet to settle although it is now taking on direction and shape.

95. Something that I envisioned would take 20 years because of the enormous size of the change of habit and it would be worldwide in a way that nobody can really understand. Never in the history of mankind have so many adapted to something new so quick. Yes 20 years is a FLASH. Nothing ever became so universal so fast. Not electric, not phones, not TV, not even the computer itself.

96. How long do you think it would take for the Internet to evolve back in 1996 when less than 1% of the world’s population was online?

97. So the way I see things is very different than perhaps anyone else as I am sure your visions may be unique to you and what you want and the lifestyle you are striving for.

98. While I saw domains being something that would bring many people together, I don’t ever think I saw that just selling the picks and shovels could be such a multi billion dollar business and still expanding.

99. While I thought domains would parallel real estate, it did so faster, deeper and more mainstream than I thought would happen.

100. I think social media only enhances this in an exponential way.

101. So I still believe we are in our adolescence. But it won’t be much longer that adolescence begins the journey of maturity.

102. So just like a boy or a girl takes 20 years to mature and THEN blossom, so was my approach to Dotcom Blvd.

103. Graduation day is not the day you reach your full potential. It’s the day you start your journey.

104. It’s the day you mark when things really begin

105. It’s the day that starts life as we know it.

106. So I have this 20 year plan and folks still laugh.

107. But I have the “Luxury of time” to decide which parking lots are turned into Skyscrapers or Department Stores or just keeping as a parking lot until there are no more cars to service.

108. Real Estate, Oil wells, Mineral Rights, Parking Lots, Store Fronts, Billboards, Message Boards, Gold Mines, Diamonds, name your poison. Name your path. Name your trail. Never has any single item had so many faces and possibilities and parallels as a domain name.

109. So we can be condemned for seeing things early but that won’t change the facts of acting on a hunch and taking a huge risk when the next guy with the same opportunity passed on that great risk

110. Great risk receives great rewards when the risk you take just happens to unfold as you saw years ago.

111. So what would you call somebody that bought in the desert when nobody else on the entire planet wanted it and everyone laughed at him? What do you call the guy today with an acre of sand on Las Vegas Blvd that is just a parking lot? Some old fat guy at the gate with a cigar hanging from his mouth. Each night he collects $20 each for the 5000 cars that fit in his garage. Oh didn’t I tell you, he decided to focus and build on that parking lot a 12 story garage capable of holding 5000 cars at $20 each and turns the spaces an average of 2.5 times a day. Gets $50 on special event days.

112. The fat guy at the gate just keeps laughing as each car hands him $20. Another puff on the cigar, another laugh. $250,000/day business and he did damn well for his $100 investment. The garage he built that was a simple skeleton paid itself off in just 4 weeks so there is no mortgage.

113. They told the old guy he no longer had to collect the cash. That now they had machines to do the same thing and he could go to Florida and just lay on the beach.

114. I heard he declined the move. He just loved laughing his ass off. Every 5th car would pay off that original $100 mortgage.

115. Ok, so that is one path. One parallel. Now let’s talk about the oil well parallels.

116. Then the Gold Rush Parallel.

And to be fair, don’t forget the tulips. The greatest BUST in history and to some, domaining is exactly like that. Don’t know about the tulips? Look it up!
There is also the collectible parallel.
The TV parallel
The Hollywood Parallel
The stock market Parallel
The Location, Location, Location, parallel
The Monopoly Game Parallel.
The Game of Life Parallel
The Radio, Newpaper, Magazine Parallel
More parallels in one commodity than all others combined and I have barely scratched the surface!
There has never been anything quite as universal and VALUABLE as a meaningful domain name and 2012 marks the year that the cat is out of the bag. Predators from every corner will come out like cockroaches at night trying to undermine your efforts in any way possible. Some of my friends are way too nice and find themselves on the short end. My only suggestion is to grow some balls and learn how to tell people to shove it up their ass with a 2 x 4.

See there are efforts by scammers that don’t take 20 years. They can fake out the system in 2 or 3 years or less and then just walk away with your property. Folks it is time to stop being naive. The next jackass that contacts you that you never heard of that wants one of your domains is likely not who they say they are and likely have an agenda. Why pay for a domain when they can PLAY the domainer?

Good luck and go grab your share of the pie! But don’t be a victim of those predators. They play with an empty hand, don’t play with an empty offense. You don't need a lawyer all the time, but you do need balls every moment from this day forward.

As investors in domain names we have done nothing wrong and worked within the system to capitalize on something just as they have done for hundreds of years on millions of items. Buy a $10 piece of art at a garage sale and a Picasso is behind it, well it’s yours and nothing will change it unless it had been stolen to begin with.

That brings me to my last point. Even if you lose a domain, track it!!! If you lose a domain because of wrong doing and it is years later, learn from the sex.com case. I believe in the years ahead we will see domain returned to their original owner and whatever business has been built will collapse overnight.

If you pay your annual fees, and don't do infringe or do anything intentionally wrong with your domain, then don't be intimidated by companies large or small. The smallest guy can defeat the biggest guy with WORDS and THOUGHTS and IDEAS as well as public opinion.

Your only limit is your "Life Expectancy". So something maturing in 100 years won't do you a whole lot of good in life. You'll be long dead. Depending on your age, you may have 20-40 year horizon to accomplish what you want. Life is not as long as you may think.

Thursday, March 22, 2012

Domain Names With Geo Specific Keywords Offer Local Ranking Opportunities [Study]

Most local search professionals will tell you that citations and site relevance to the target geo are the keys to ranking in local search engine results pages (SERPs).

Testing and retesting old methods is part of maintaining SEO strategies so it seemed a smart choice to take a closer look at one of these key onsite factors and conduct a small study on the weight of domain names in rankings. The goal was to evaluate the performance of a related series of keywords in 10 different geographic locations and put them head to head against a term directly associated with the domain name.

For this test we elected to do a study on the University of California school system and produce a small article on the spring break dates for 2012. The domain we chose to test on was Travelfromlosangeles.com, which at the time had 32 total links and had been in existence for about a year. The domain is a typical WordPress blog with beginner basic optimizations and full metadata descriptions and tags.

The specific article page was +1'd and tweeted a couple of times by our team, but over the course of a few months it appeared on the third page of the SERP. The page continued to climb and in February it achieved the top spot for “UCLA Spring Break 2012,” even edging out UCLA.edu.



Surprisingly enough, the page climbed to the optimum position for the key phrase, and we were curious to see how it fared for the other University of California institutions. Upon further review, it was clear that UCLA centered terms garnered a much higher position than those surrounding other schools like Santa Barbara or San Diego.



Utilizing Google Webmaster Tools’ data, we looked at a constant series of terms that only varied in the school location and pulled ranking data for the past 30 days on Google. The data seemed to have a pattern of rank decreasing as distance from Los Angeles increased, so it was compiled it into the graph below. Strangely enough, no data was pulled in by Google WMT on UCSF so that locale was excluded from the graph.

Key Takeaways
UCLA Spring Break 2012 outpaced any other university search term by three spots without receiving the advantage of a mention in the title tag.

The average SERP position for universities has a correlation with the distance they are located from Los Angeles. The trend line shows the furthest institutions as the lowest performing keywords in the SERPs, with the exception of UC Santa Cruz.

Conclusion
While this data is seasonally impacted, it still establishes a clear connection between domain name and ranking opportunity with geo specific keywords. The SEO value of having Los Angeles in the site name is clearly defined by the No. 1 ranking for UCLA Spring Break 2012. When looking to build out a site for a specific geographic region it is advisable to seek out a domain name that references the area in a distinguishable manner to not only the search engine bots but to the searchers as well.

This piece and the research behind it was a collaboration between Michael Martin and his colleague Danny McElroy, SEO specialist, Covario.

Six-Figure Sale at Sedo and Clamor for Country Codes Kept Cash Registers Ringing This Week

Sedo.com claimed the top spot on our all extension Top 20 Domain Sales Chart this week with a nice six-figure sale brokered by one their most consistent producers, Dave Evanson. They chalked up a cool $125,000 for Channel.com. Sedo went on to pile up eight of the 20 chart entries and played a big role in an outstanding week for the ccTLDs.

Seven country code domains earned places on the elite list, led by the $47,000 sale of #2 CheapVacations.ca (Canadian ccTLD) at Frank Schilling's DomainNameSales.com. They notched another one with #13 (tie) VacationPackages.ca at $15,000.

Sedo rang up three of the charted ccTLD sales with #4 Sportbekleidung.de ("sportswear" in German) leading their power trio at $33,000. Brands-and-Jingles was right behind with #5 Instant.ly (Libyan country code) at $32,000. FabulousDomains.com.au added yet another impressive sale to the ccTLD onslaught with #10 MIA.com.au (Australian country code) at $17,400.



By Ron Jackson

Two other five-figure ccTLD sales just missed taking places on the Big Board. In the weeks 21st and 22nd highest reported sales, Sedo sold Hack.me for $10,560 and DomainNameSales moved Longboards.co.uk for $10,500.
DomainNamesSales had a hand in five charted sales including #3 PlatformGames.com at $36,000. Four of the five were from their own listings with the fifth, #17 WebContacting.com at $12,000, being a DomainAdvisors.com domain that was sold on the DomainNameSales platform.

The AfternicDLS also had a big outing with four entries on the leader board, led by #6 OnTime.com at $25,000. They also had the week's biggest non .com gTLD sale (and the only one from that category to make the all extension Top 20) APS.net at $15,000.

The .coms once again took the most chart positions with a dozen, including #7 Others.com, a name that Luc Biggs sold for $23,000 in a private transaction - a very nice return on the $6,250 investment he made when he acquired the domain just a week earlier!

Here's how the sales leaders stacked up for the week ending Sunday, March 18:

Tuesday, March 20, 2012

Clements Brothers Launch New Domain Name Auction House and Brokerage Service

wo domain industry veterans who also happen to be brothers, David Clements and Toby Clements, have joined forces to launch a new domain name auction house and brokerage

service called Brannans.com. The name pays tribute to Sam Brannan, a 19th century San Francisco publicist, merchant and publisher whom historians credit with helping to trigger the California Gold Rush that started in 1848.

The name seems appropriate since the Clements brothers have long been part of a modern day gold rush in which domain prospectors pan for valuable pieces of Internet real estate.

David Clements (left) and Toby Clements

One thing that they say sets them apart from the crowd is a focus on selling domain names as brand building tools for business end users. Founder and CEO David Clements said, "End-user marketing and sales is about building relationships with business owners and their key decision makers. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, businesses with less than 500 employees account for 99% of the independent enterprises in the US. When domainers refer to the term end-users, they really mean these businesses and to sell to them you’ve got to build rapport first. Only then can you educate them on the value of using a relatively new asset class for branding and marketing."


Toby Clements said, “I’m very excited to be partnering with my brother David on this new venture. Brannan’s offers additional value and opportunity to domainers and especially to my current newsletter

subscribers at TobyClements.com. It gives me another tool to market domains without getting things too overcomplicated or watered down.”

David added that he and Toby will also work with all of the other auction houses and brokers in the industry to give sellers the maximum possible exposure for their domains. David noted, "Our first priority is to speak to domain investors. If you own or manage a large portfolio and we haven’t met or spoken or emailed in the past two months, please reach out to me at your earliest convenience. I’d love to help you sell some domains at our upcoming first auction and I can also talk to you further about our targeted business brokerage division."

That first auction David referred to is a week-long online event scheduled for April 2, 2012. The deadline for auction submissions is March 28, 2012. You can find submission guidelines as well as a form for submitting your domains here.

Sunday, March 18, 2012

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Investing in Quad llll.com Premium domain guide and tips

Like LLL.coms, it’s important to invest in quality if one wishes to be minimally exposed to future risk. As I’ve said many times before, I’ve long believed the triple premium segment is heavily undervalued (or that single/double premiums are grossly overvalued in comparison if you’d prefer to look at it that way). A quad premium isn’t better than a triple premium because it has more premium letters, rather, it’s better because it usually has a better chance of finding an enduser (that’s the whole premise behind premium letters). When that’s not the case, eg. a no traffic, no acronym, low google frequency, seemingly unbrandable quad premium is imho still considerably overvalued at $210. Why a triple premium with better enduser possibilities (eg. something with 3 strong letters and a U/W) might go for half of that is anyone’s guess — we see this in the LLL.com market as well. I blame it on most domainers not doing enough research before investing and taking the “lazy domainer” approach that quad premium > triple premim, despite the fact that in some cases single premium > quad premium. It’s always important to consider who will buy a domain before investing in it. The only true thing that should separate a quad premium from an LLLL.com available for less is the fact that the quad premium has a better chance of finding an enduser now or in the future — if that’s not the case, you really shouldn’t be paying a 1000% premium over what other LLLL.coms can be had for.

With Quad Premiums, I try to stay away from the letters F,G, and H, which routinely report the lowest sales results. Whenever possible, sticking to LLLL.coms containing 1 (or ideally 2-3) A,E,S, which almost always make for very strong LLLL.coms and letters C, I, L, O add powerful brandability (as do A,E,S once again, of course), especially as ending letters.

Assuming you’re buying near minimum wholesale (eg. under $225 per), I think you’re quite safe and insulated from future risk by staying away from quads containing F,G,H. Of course some quads with those letters are good, but as a general rule they do tend to report lower sales results. Very few domaining segments have as much data readily available to be analyzed as the LLLL.com market — this can be both a blessing and a curse. When it comes to LLLL.coms, statistics is your friend and going with “what sells” really is the only way to go.

Saturday, March 17, 2012

Some Tips to invest in domain names ( top 10 best used)

1. Attempt to Predict the Future

You may not have the genius of renowned futurist Ray Kurzweil who has been hired by Bill Gates on numerous occasions just to talk, but you can still predict the future of the domain industry. By the time a child born today graduates from college, Kurzweil believes that poverty, disease, and reliance on fossil fuels will be a thing of the past. Ray bases his predictions on the exponential growth in the power of technology, or as he calls it–the Law of Accelerating Returns. We can apply futuristic predictions to valuable domain name investments. Think outside of the box; education & technology, information syndication, social networking, robotics, alternative energy…you get the picture.

2. Stick With the “Dot Com”

This suggestion could be argued, but generally successful investors and domaining old schoolers will tell you that they will put their money on “.com” remaining at the top of the food chain for quite awhile. If you get in the market early for a popular ccTLD (country code top level domain) like .us, .tv, etc.; you may be able to snag a great name. The risk factor for “.com” is significantly less than the other extensions. Maybe we should ask Kurzweil what he thinks.

3. Keep it Short and Sweet

In the world of domains, generally speaking; 2 letter names are a fool’s dream; 3 letter names are king; 4 letter non-sense names are an easy sale; 5 letter names bank a small fortune. You would, however, be hard pressed to find any of those to add to your portfolio. My best suggestion to you is not to stray past two words within a domain name. Memorability, ease of typing and visual aesthetics play a big part in a domain’s value.

4. Keep it Brandable

Make sure the words you choose in your domain flow well together; repeat your name aloud several times to see how it sounds spoken. Ask your friends and family what their first impression of your name choices are. Does your name relate well to the industry or audience the website would be targeting?

5. Keep it Real

We have all seen them, invented names or characters mashed together that form pronounceable syllables–Yahoo, Google, Twitter, Tumblr. While many popular websites today have done well with these odd brand names it would be hard to market a cheaper version of these names to anyone, which brings me to my next point…

6. Have a Buyer in Mind

Before investing your money into a domain name, ask yourself a few questions about your future buyer. Would anyone want to buy this domain name today? What niche industry or population could I market this name to? Is this domain relevant to a small business industry, a single person or a large movement? The more potential buyers the better.

7. Don’t Spend More than Current Value

Do your homework. Research aftermarket domain sales portals such as Sedo, TDNAM, Afternic as well as domain forums for current sales prices of similar names. You can get a good idea of the value of your domain and some insight into how its value may mature in the future. I suppose there can be some exceptions to this tip if you’re Mr. Moneybags and find a name you are just sure is going to be a hit.

8. Don’t Sell Until it’s Ripe

Imagine you’re at the 1923 World Series and Babe Ruth tosses your baseball back to ya with his name jotted down in fresh black ink. A friend of a friend of your second cousin offers you $50 bucks for the ball a week later… you simply don’t sell your green bananas! The amount of people logging on to the internet and developing their own websites increases tremendously each year. If you think you’ve got a keeper, do just that.

9. Develop Relevant Content

Search Engines today are a key element to driving traffic to our names and essentially allow certain websites to be discovered. There are vast amounts of information and domain names that are essentially hidden to the world simply because webmasters do not take the steps to publish and promote quality information. If nothing else, setup a WordPress blog script on your domain name, get some quality web hosting and regularly publish relevant content to your domains.

10. Nurture Your Name

Incoming unique visitors, Google’s PageRank, backlinks and web reputability can add significant value to any domain. While publishing current events and related content to your domain name, manually submit your site to quality web directories. Social networks such as MyBlogLog, StumbleUpon and Bumpzee can also add reputation and send visitors to your name.

LLLL.com Price Guide

LLLL.com Price Guide
New Price Guide coming soon at:

LLLL.com Price Guide is a guide to domain investors , we gathered this information from our experience.

Time until Expiration/Renewal (subtract $0.60 from the values reported below for every month less than 1 full year remaining on the registration).

Numbers in parentheses reflect maximum likely obtainable prices in a reseller environment for domains fitting a particular letter pattern. Sales near the maximum suggested prices are generally for quad premium examples which are pronounceable, memorable, and acronym-friendly. Rare LLLL.coms are treated separately later in the price guide. All prices quoted are reflective only of what one could expect to pay in a reseller environment — suggested maximum prices have no meaning if you’re targetting endusers or selling generic 4 letter .coms.

LLLL.com Price Guide s wholesale / double / triple premium .coms

LLL.com:
Min Wholesale: $5800
Double Premium: $6600
Triple Premium: $10000
LLLL.com:
Minimum Wholesale: $22
CCCC: $22 ($500)
CCVC: $25 ($600)
CVCC: $27 ($600)
CCVV: $30 ($600)
VCCC: $30 ($750)
VVCC: $32 ($1000)
VCCV: $34 ($1500)
CVVC: $45 ($1800)
VVVC: $75 ($1000)
VCVC: $75 ($4000)
CVVV: $85 ($900)
VVCV: $80 ($1500)
VCVV: $100 ($2000)
VVVV: $250* ($1500)
CVCV: $300 ($9000)
* Insufficient sales data to conclusively provide a minimum valuation.
The letter Y was considered a consonant for the purpose of this price guide. In reality, it can serve as both a consonant or vowel, however this often becomes somewhat subjective and open to bias (eg. sellers will always think their domain is more pronounceable than buyers).
single premium: $22
double premium: $26
triple premium: $35
quad premium: $210
triple letter: $200 ($800)
triple repeat: $350 ($1800)
palindrome: $300 ($1200)
ABAB: $275 ($1000)
AABB: $400 ($1500)
Quad Premium rares (triples, palindromes, ABAB, AABB) generally sell for 1.5 to 2.5 times quoted minimum wholesales.
Triple Premium Breakdown
Prices in parentheses reflect maximum likely prices in a reseller environment for cookie cutter examples (as defined above) which lack significant distinguishing features (such as much pronounceability). Prices to the left reflect the minimum wholesale prices per type of triple premium LLLL.com.
Q/X: $35 ($60)
Z: $40 ($80)
Y: $45 ($90)
J: $50 ($100)
V: $65 ($100)
K: $60 ($120)
U: $75 ($130)
W: $80 ($150)
Pronounceable Performance Breakdown
When dealing with pronounceable 4 letter .coms, the question often arises whether the letter “Y” takes on the properties of a consonant or those of a vowel. When dealing with CVCVs, a “Y” found in the 4th position is often considered to take on the properties of a vowel and when found in the 2nd position, the role of a consonant.
Recent sales data follows which should help better elucidate the difference between valuations of CVCY/CYCV, as well as demonstrate the differences in value between a CVCV containing no “Y” and one containing a “Y”.
CVCV:
cuji.com $854 07/16/2008 SnapNames
keqa.com $500 07/16/2008 BQB
Lodo.com $17000 07/16/2008 RickLatona.com
nize.com $1664 07/16/2008 Sedo
cegu.com $1109 07/14/2008 Sedo
hene.com $1900 07/14/2008 Sedo
kiqe.com $407 07/11/2008 Sedo
zuso.com $1250 07/11/2008 Sedo
gofu.com $1450 07/10/2008 Sedo
kiqe.com $407 07/10/2008 Sedo
pafe.com $1806 07/10/2008 Sedo
buli.com $2200 07/09/2008
hopa.com $15000 07/09/2008 Afternic
mafa.com $3000 07/09/2008 Sedo
sule.com $2291 07/09/2008 Sedo
tezi.com $1355 07/08/2008 Sedo
vuqu.com $360 07/05/2008 Sedo
piwu.com $1001 07/04/2008 Sedo
vudi.com $664 07/04/2008 Sedo
jisu.com $3988 07/02/2008 Sedo
CYCV:
dypa.com $490 07/17/2008 Sedo
hypi.com $3000 07/16/2008 Afternic
gyqa.com $110 06/20/2008 Sedo
CVCY:
kedy.com $1360 07/17/2008 Sedo
lesy.com $1027 07/09/2008 Sedo
moky.com $1600 07/09/2008 BQB
raxy.com $353 07/07/2008 Sedo
cavy.com $3134 07/04/2008 Sedo
noqy.com $191 07/03/2008 TDNAM
posy.com $2,202 06/27/2008 Sedo
cufy.com $510 06/21/2008 Sedo
rizy.com $675 06/20/2008 Sedo
CVYV:
goyo.com $3970 ($9000) 07/02/2008 Sedo, resold on 07/14/2008 at TDNAM
woya.com $4500 07/02/2008 Afternic
mayu.com $2001 07/01/2008 Sedo
YVCV:
Yeco.com $1022 07/09/2008 NameJet
yuzu.com $3800 07/08/2008 NameJet
yuki.com $8850 07/07/2008 NameJet
VCVC:
icav.com $506 07/14/2008 NameJet
iduf.com $130 07/09/2008 Private
avos.com $3093 07/06/2008 NameJet
ases.com $4100 07/02/2008 Sedo
ocal.com $2550 07/02/2008 Sedo
upax.com $4418 07/02/2008 Afternic
igax.com $176 06/30/2008 NameJet
ocal.com $2550 06/27/2008 Sedo
avof.com $243 06/26/2008 Sedo
upaj.com $3000 06/25/2008 Afternic
ases.com $4100 06/24/2008 Sedo
ocal.com $2550 06/22/2008 Sedo
inoq.com $177 06/21/2008 Sedo
aqit.com $140 06/20/2008 NameJet
uzuf.com $105 06/20/2008 NamePros Auction
aced.com $12500 06/19/2008 Afternic
ataw.com $310 06/19/2008 NameJet
umuj.com $150 06/18/2008 Private Sale
erar.com $970 06/16/2008 NameJet
axah.com $145 06/14/2008 BQB.com
VCVC (containing Y):
oyom.com $175 07/09/2008 TDNAM
ufyl.com $29 07/04/2008 DigitalPoint
eyah.com $1061 07/03/2008 SnapNames
ywew.com $31 06/12/2008 SnapNames
ahyn.com $162 06/11/2008 Sedo
ymel.com $252 06/07/2008 TDNAM
obye.com $211 06/06/2008 SnapNames
OSYT.com $160 06/06/2008 NamePros
yqiq.com $42 06/03/2008 TDNAM
unyf.com $71 06/02/2008 NameJet
yruf.com $47.99 06/02/2008 eBay
VCCV:
afcy.com $95 07/17/2008 Sedo
erdy.com $75 07/16/2008 Afternic
ilqo.com $80 07/15/2008 TDNAM
ufgo.com $133 07/15/2008 TDNAM
ufgo.com $133 07/14/2008 TDNAM
uyri.com $51 07/14/2008 TDNAM
ipyi.com $82 07/09/2008 Pool
ozmo.com $25,000 07/09/2008 Sedo
opli.com $360 07/05/2008 NameJet
ihpy.com $52 07/04/2008 TDNAM
udqu.com $25 07/04/2008 NamePros
ugzi.com $29 07/04/2008 TDNAM
uxzy.com $29 07/04/2008 DigitalPoint
uhqu.com $25 07/03/2008 NamePros
ilfa.com $560 06/25/2008 Sedo
umno.com $2,500 06/25/2008 Ebay
ezsa.com $250 06/24/2008 NameJet
ahza.com $121 06/20/2008 NameJet
eqgi.com $51 06/18/2008 TDNAM
VCCV (containing Y):
afcy.com $95 07/17/2008 Sedo
erdy.com $75 07/16/2008 Afternic
uyri.com $51 07/14/2008 TDNAM
ipyi.com $82 07/09/2008 Pool
ihpy.com $52 07/04/2008 TDNAM
uxzy.com $29 07/04/2008 DigitalPoint
ujly.com $180 06/18/2008 Sedo
ijgy.com $53 06/16/2008 TDNAM
ihqy.com $28 06/12/2008 SnapNames
ikfy.com $110 06/12/2008 SnapNames
YMNY.com $200 06/12/2008 NamePros
ytda.com $60 06/12/2008 SnapNames
iyki.com $90 06/11/2008 SnapNames
ynca.com $2736 06/06/2008 NameJet
ingy.com $691 06/02/2008 NameJet
ilgy.com $100 06/01/2008 NameJet

buy expired domains with traffic and monetize it

Recently i was looking at some godaddy expiring domain auctions. What interested me was the domains with traffic, so i thought i will invest some money buying them and use one of the turn key websites i bought on ebay a http://bit.ly/FOWHPS nd make money with google adsense from the traffic its getting everyday.

My website is www.netjobsdirect.com

The trick worked, i bought a domain which was getting 1k visitors , and i was able to make atleast $10-$15 per day .. Not bad uhh ..

I will share more info on its progress

Friday, March 16, 2012

Blockbuster .Net Sale One of Two 6-Figure Deals That Top This Week's Domain Sales Chart

A blockbuster .net sale - the year's biggest non .com gTLD sale reported to date - claimed the top spot on this week's all extension Top 20 Domain Sales Chart. Frank Schilling's DomainNameSales.com did the honors with CDN.net at an astounding $185,000 - more than triple the amount paid for the previous 2012 leader in this category (DIY.org at $60,000).

The runner up position went to another six-figure 3-letter domain - SOL.com, sold at Sedo.com for $127,400. We learned about yet another three-letter .com purchased by Danish businessman Marcus Kocak for $150,000 in a private transaction, however that one was made under a non-disclosure agreement. In addition, DomainNameSales had another six-figure .com sale this week that they could not release due to an NDA.

That left the #3 position open for the week's biggest ccTLD sale, Online-Casinos.de at €65,000 ($84,500) via Sedo. Just last week Sedo sold the un-hyphenated version of that domain for the same price.



By Ron Jackson

Sedo went on to sweep 15 of the 23 chart entries (the extra positions resulted from a four-way tie for the final spot). Their roster included three of the four non .com gTLDs on the elite list, including #9 (tie) Surgeon.org at $19,000. They also rang up all three country code sales on the Big Board with #11 TalkFusion.de ($18,850) and #12 Life.me ($17,450) Joining Online-Casinos.de in the ccTLD camp.

DomainNameSales also had another solid week with five charted sales including three of the first six. Their group included #4 Deng.com at $65,000 and #6 PrivatKredit.com at $35,000.

That left just three openings and the AfternicDLS took every one of those with a power trio led by #8 GetMoneyFast.com at $19,850.

Forbes publication : Owning a domain name is forever if it has “Google juice”

A really interesting article was just published by Forbes entitled “Owning a domain name is forever if it has “Google juice”

The article talks about the dangers of re-branding from an existing domain name to another domain and letting the old domain drop.

“”Planning to revamp your branding? Maybe relaunch your company or product line?Then before you say “we’ll just point the old domain name to our new domain and let the old one expire” consider the following tale”

I’ll let you read the entire article but here is “The moral of the story”

” If you decide to refocus your marketing and branding and switch to a new new domain name when you’ve had an online presence that has worked to any degree then never, ever let the old domain name go … you’ll have to plan to own it forever.”

Investing in .us domains good or bad ?

Someone asked me the other day what the highest .US domain sale was. I honestly had no idea so I started my search in the DNJournal archives and on NameBio and DNSalePrice. I wasn’t expecting a lot but I was a little surprised when I saw how few .US domain sales reported even break the $25k mark. I understand .COM is the TLD that people in our country recognize and use but .US is still the official ccTLD of the United States.
The .US TLD is the most underperforming ccTLD in existence, I’ve felt this way for a long time. When you look at ccTLD’s like .DE, .EU, .CO.UK, .FR, .CA and even .PL, .NL, .SE and .CC their top sale, sales volume and average sales price all dwarf .US sales stats. Below are the list of documented .US sales above $15,000 (prices rounded to nearest thousand) all the way back to 2004.
Video.us $75k (2007)
Taxi.us $35k
Job.us $35k
SexToy.us $51k
Jew.us $29k
Jews.us $25k
Famo.us $25k
Baseball.us $25k
Voip.us $25k
Foods.us $20k
Football.us $19k
Video.us $18.5k (2008)
Computer.us $17k
Bingo.us $15k
Miami.us $15k
You’ll notice that Video.us is on this list twice. And according to DNJournal this is accurate – the top selling documented .US domain was resold a year later for a seventy five percent loss! Ouch.
I can’t remember all the .US domain names I have but I am pretty sure if I rounded them all up it would be enough to count on one hand. I also can’t remember making a significant sale of a .US domain name. Does this mean I think ALL .US names are worthless? No. I think it means that the best ones are undervalued and also that besides true premium .US names, other investments in the space are not worthwhile.
I do expect that with the rise of gTLD’s, .US will gain some more traction. .US could also really use some help from its parent company Neustar which has done next to nothing to help promote the .US brand over the last few years.

Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Tuesday Big Old List of Domains At Auction, Dropping, or For Sale Around the Net 3-13-12

One of the down sides of having a brick and mortar business is you have to come in contact with people. Hundreds of them. Any one of them could be a petri dish of disease. Shaking hands, talking close. Add in an all weekend trade show and I didn’t stand a chance. Throw in 37 miles running and I’m as good as dead. And that’s how I felt yesterday. I apologize to all those that I told off or made cry yesterday when I was in my bad mood. Now on to today’s names.

Paymachine.com Good mobile wallet name. 7 years old. Also my title around the house.

Hoarded.com Could pretty much sell anything you want. I almost didn’t even want to share this name as I have nightmares for 3 days after every show of hoarders.

SurfingKites.com Not a huge sport but growing in popularity every year. I think Woody Harrelson kite surfs and if he does it, it’s cool. Lots of ads but valuate.com doesn’t like it

VintageCoupons.com I’m pretty sure they’re all going to be expired

1stFamily.com I like firstfamily better but still worth a few hundred and more if built out. 15 years old and that alone gives it some value.

Snuffed.com Dictionary word with no bidders……until now

FlooringOptions.com Great name for a flooring company and there are already many companies that share that same thought. Values at $1000

BikerLady.com Cool but not sexy. I picture saggy boobs, tats, and leather, like in leather skin.

PetLane.com I heard they are adding new lanes on all California streets for people that drive with their dogs in their laps. It allows everyone else to get the hell away from those crazies.

GeoTarget.com I would think a bunch of people in our industry would like this name.

DealJump.com Very common, easy to spell words and contains the word deal. Good brand.

Saturday, March 10, 2012

Four letter llll .com investment guide

Reece of Four Letter Noob released his 4 letter dot com price guide today. This is the mid-March update which as always goes into plenty of detail and statistical analysis. It shows what everyone has predicted, a staggering increase in LLLL.com values!


The minimum wholesale price of 4 letter domains has increase 114% over the last month. Excellent news for any 4 letter domain investor and not just for the single reason that ‘our’ stock has increased in value but because if 4 letter domains increase enough over regfee there will be no reason for anyone to drop them. Buy bargain llll.com domains from ebay.With a decrease in drops and supply and an increase in demand and end users (as many predict), prices will continue to rise.

I see ebay listing many llll.com domains. I was interested in one particular seller 1Domainaday.com his ebay seller id 1DomainADay , i have bought many domains from him, he always sells quality domains.

My eyes are on RDoy.com ,waiting for auction listings.

I think this week I will evaluate my portfolio based on Reece’s price guide and report the increase in my portfolios value… that will make an interesting article I’m sure!

After visiting a few domain forums doing a little research on some domains. I was baffled by the fact that there was a few threads tracking the value of "lll.com" and "llll.com." To my amazement I couldn't imagine why anyone would want to own four l's for a domain. Since it doesn't actually describe what the website is about. Then I thought about the human nature aspect of owning a domain name with four letters or numbers. Since, not many people will actually be able to own that kind of domain name! Of course, that adds to the value that four letter domain names, but since the internet is constantly growing. Even becoming more popular every year and has even more time to grow I think the value is reaffirmed.

The internet is massive and is constantly growing with the introduction of blogs that allow people to interact. Since, technology also keeps expanding into more powerful languages like Ajax, PhP, and Java continued expansion is a logical assumption. Not only that, hosting and storage prices have come down a lot since 2000. Making it much more cost effective to host your own website. Which again adds to the value of domain names, since it's adding demand for the need of domains. In my opinion as long as storage becomes cheaper, technology makes websites file sizes more compressed, then demand will continually rise for domain names. Including the domains that are four letters with no apparent value other than there demand.


Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/3588531

Future is in Social networking domains

A survey shows that in 2011 over 47% of American adults used a social network.

"Social networking sites are hugely popular because they bring people together and they can interact with each other and find users with similar interests. Users can share ideas, activities, events, photos. Users can contribute content which can be broadcasted and uploaded so selected friends can view them. Social networks connect people at low cost and make it easier to keep in touch with others around the world" said Paul Wilson, domain name expert.

Social networks can also be based on shared business needs or experiences. Social Interaction is very rewarding for everyone because common interests can be shared internationally. Companies can use social networks to create brand awareness, to recruit, as an online reputation management tool, to learn about new technologies and competitors, and as a lead generation tool to find potential clients.

"The future of publishing is on the Internet and SocialMagazine.com is the perfect domain name for an online magazine covering the social world or as a social site itself. The social activity is online so it makes sense to cover it with an online magazine. Social users are international and the proper extension to cover this huge international market is the dot com."

Five Top Domain Investment Strategies

Five Top Domain Investment Strategies – Part 1 of 5
There are essentially five domain investment strategies that work better than most others. This is not information most people would be willing to share, but I thought I’d let it out there – if it helps one person register better domains, all the better.
Investment Strategy # 1: Geo Domains
City names, state names, country names in any tld are called Geo domains. Such names might be tough to monetize without development, but resale values are usually substantial and most extensions will get traffic and thus revenues. Generally locations with population greater than 100,000 are considered worthy of owning, but high value niche locations can be just as lucrative.
These domains are tough to hand register, but you can pick up drops here and there and when new TLDs are introduced these are the first to get sold out, specially if its a ccTLD or a TLD that matches the geo location.
I’ll give a few examples of core geo domains – NewYork.com, NewDelhi.com or even Mumbai.in would be core geo domains.
Second rung geo domains are of the type CityState.tld or CityCountry.tld or even CityStateabbreviation.tld – such domains are best restricted to the top 3 gtlds – .com / .net / .org or their local ccTLDs; Examples of such names would be MumbaiIndia.com or MumbaiMH.com;
Valuations of such domains are tough to ascertain and thus extreme care should be taken to ensure that you do not overpay for such domains as traffic is usually extremely restricted to these.
The third rung of Geo domains are what are known as Keyword Geo domains.These only make sense for extremely high population areas like Capital cities and Major Metros. Again, these are best in .com / .net / .org or geo matching tlds.
A lot of these are still available and in some locations end users love them as it allows them to get to the top of the SEO heap pretty easily. I’ve seen quite a few end user and bulk sales of these type of domains to brick and mortar companies or professionals who get the whole PPC game.
Examples of Geo Keyword domains are AttorneySeattle.com or DoctorsLondon.com or CarDealerNewYork.com or MumbaiMart.com and ChaloIndia.com – which are the first domains I ever registered back in 1998. They are still developed sites though due for a makeover soon.
Even developed, these are tough to monetize, though the amount of local goodwill one can gather from these is tremendous and this creates a good amount of leads for other related service offerings.
I will say here that my Geo Domain holdings are extremely minute and only represent less than 1% of my domain portfolio and are only limited to my own Geo location and sphere of work.

LLLL.com Price Guide what domains to invest

LLLL.com Price Guide


Time until Expiration/Renewal (subtract $0.60 from the values reported below for every month less than 1 full year remaining on the registration).

Numbers in parentheses reflect maximum likely obtainable prices in a reseller environment for domains fitting a particular letter pattern. Sales near the maximum suggested prices are generally for quad premium examples which are pronounceable, memorable, and acronym-friendly. Rare LLLL.coms are treated separately later in the price guide. All prices quoted are reflective only of what one could expect to pay in a reseller environment — suggested maximum prices have no meaning if you’re targetting endusers or selling generic 4 letter .coms.
LLL.com:
Min Wholesale: $5800
Double Premium: $6600
Triple Premium: $10000
LLLL.com:
Minimum Wholesale: $22
CCCC: $22 ($500)
CCVC: $25 ($600)
CVCC: $27 ($600)
CCVV: $30 ($600)
VCCC: $30 ($750)
VVCC: $32 ($1000)
VCCV: $34 ($1500)
CVVC: $45 ($1800)
VVVC: $75 ($1000)
VCVC: $75 ($4000)
CVVV: $85 ($900)
VVCV: $80 ($1500)
VCVV: $100 ($2000)
VVVV: $250* ($1500)
CVCV: $300 ($9000)
* Insufficient sales data to conclusively provide a minimum valuation.
The letter Y was considered a consonant for the purpose of this price guide. In reality, it can serve as both a consonant or vowel, however this often becomes somewhat subjective and open to bias (eg. sellers will always think their domain is more pronounceable than buyers).
single premium: $22
double premium: $26
triple premium: $35
quad premium: $210
triple letter: $200 ($800)
triple repeat: $350 ($1800)
palindrome: $300 ($1200)
ABAB: $275 ($1000)
AABB: $400 ($1500)
Quad Premium rares (triples, palindromes, ABAB, AABB) generally sell for 1.5 to 2.5 times quoted minimum wholesales.
Triple Premium Breakdown
Prices in parentheses reflect maximum likely prices in a reseller environment for cookie cutter examples (as defined above) which lack significant distinguishing features (such as much pronounceability). Prices to the left reflect the minimum wholesale prices per type of triple premium LLLL.com.
Q/X: $35 ($60)
Z: $40 ($80)
Y: $45 ($90)
J: $50 ($100)
V: $65 ($100)
K: $60 ($120)
U: $75 ($130)
W: $80 ($150)
Pronounceable Performance Breakdown
When dealing with pronounceable 4 letter .coms, the question often arises whether the letter “Y” takes on the properties of a consonant or those of a vowel. When dealing with CVCVs, a “Y” found in the 4th position is often considered to take on the properties of a vowel and when found in the 2nd position, the role of a consonant.
Recent sales data follows which should help better elucidate the difference between valuations of CVCY/CYCV, as well as demonstrate the differences in value between a CVCV containing no “Y” and one containing a “Y”.
CVCV:
cuji.com $854 07/16/2008 SnapNames
keqa.com $500 07/16/2008 BQB
Lodo.com $17000 07/16/2008
Rdoy.com $1550 08/12/2008 Private sale
RickLatona.com
nize.com $1664 07/16/2008 Sedo
cegu.com $1109 07/14/2008 Sedo
hene.com $1900 07/14/2008 Sedo
kiqe.com $407 07/11/2008 Sedo
zuso.com $1250 07/11/2008 Sedo
gofu.com $1450 07/10/2008 Sedo
kiqe.com $407 07/10/2008 Sedo
pafe.com $1806 07/10/2008 Sedo
buli.com $2200 07/09/2008
hopa.com $15000 07/09/2008 Afternic
mafa.com $3000 07/09/2008 Sedo
sule.com $2291 07/09/2008 Sedo
tezi.com $1355 07/08/2008 Sedo
vuqu.com $360 07/05/2008 Sedo
piwu.com $1001 07/04/2008 Sedo
vudi.com $664 07/04/2008 Sedo
jisu.com $3988 07/02/2008 Sedo
CYCV:
dypa.com $490 07/17/2008 Sedo
hypi.com $3000 07/16/2008 Afternic
gyqa.com $110 06/20/2008 Sedo
CVCY:
kedy.com $1360 07/17/2008 Sedo
lesy.com $1027 07/09/2008 Sedo
moky.com $1600 07/09/2008 BQB
raxy.com $353 07/07/2008 Sedo
cavy.com $3134 07/04/2008 Sedo
noqy.com $191 07/03/2008 TDNAM
posy.com $2,202 06/27/2008 Sedo
cufy.com $510 06/21/2008 Sedo
rizy.com $675 06/20/2008 Sedo
CVYV:
goyo.com $3970 ($9000) 07/02/2008 Sedo, resold on 07/14/2008 at TDNAM
woya.com $4500 07/02/2008 Afternic
mayu.com $2001 07/01/2008 Sedo
YVCV:
Yeco.com $1022 07/09/2008 NameJet
yuzu.com $3800 07/08/2008 NameJet
yuki.com $8850 07/07/2008 NameJet
VCVC:
icav.com $506 07/14/2008 NameJet
iduf.com $130 07/09/2008 Private
avos.com $3093 07/06/2008 NameJet
ases.com $4100 07/02/2008 Sedo
ocal.com $2550 07/02/2008 Sedo
upax.com $4418 07/02/2008 Afternic
igax.com $176 06/30/2008 NameJet
ocal.com $2550 06/27/2008 Sedo
avof.com $243 06/26/2008 Sedo
upaj.com $3000 06/25/2008 Afternic
ases.com $4100 06/24/2008 Sedo
ocal.com $2550 06/22/2008 Sedo
inoq.com $177 06/21/2008 Sedo
aqit.com $140 06/20/2008 NameJet
uzuf.com $105 06/20/2008 NamePros Auction
aced.com $12500 06/19/2008 Afternic
ataw.com $310 06/19/2008 NameJet
umuj.com $150 06/18/2008 Private Sale
erar.com $970 06/16/2008 NameJet
axah.com $145 06/14/2008 BQB.com
VCVC (containing Y):
oyom.com $175 07/09/2008 TDNAM
ufyl.com $29 07/04/2008 DigitalPoint
eyah.com $1061 07/03/2008 SnapNames
ywew.com $31 06/12/2008 SnapNames
ahyn.com $162 06/11/2008 Sedo
ymel.com $252 06/07/2008 TDNAM
obye.com $211 06/06/2008 SnapNames
OSYT.com $160 06/06/2008 NamePros
yqiq.com $42 06/03/2008 TDNAM
unyf.com $71 06/02/2008 NameJet
yruf.com $47.99 06/02/2008 eBay
VCCV:
afcy.com $95 07/17/2008 Sedo
erdy.com $75 07/16/2008 Afternic
ilqo.com $80 07/15/2008 TDNAM
ufgo.com $133 07/15/2008 TDNAM
ufgo.com $133 07/14/2008 TDNAM
uyri.com $51 07/14/2008 TDNAM
ipyi.com $82 07/09/2008 Pool
ozmo.com $25,000 07/09/2008 Sedo
opli.com $360 07/05/2008 NameJet
ihpy.com $52 07/04/2008 TDNAM
udqu.com $25 07/04/2008 NamePros
ugzi.com $29 07/04/2008 TDNAM
uxzy.com $29 07/04/2008 DigitalPoint
uhqu.com $25 07/03/2008 NamePros
ilfa.com $560 06/25/2008 Sedo
umno.com $2,500 06/25/2008 Ebay
ezsa.com $250 06/24/2008 NameJet
ahza.com $121 06/20/2008 NameJet
eqgi.com $51 06/18/2008 TDNAM
VCCV (containing Y):
afcy.com $95 07/17/2008 Sedo
erdy.com $75 07/16/2008 Afternic
uyri.com $51 07/14/2008 TDNAM
ipyi.com $82 07/09/2008 Pool
ihpy.com $52 07/04/2008 TDNAM
uxzy.com $29 07/04/2008 DigitalPoint
ujly.com $180 06/18/2008 Sedo
ijgy.com $53 06/16/2008 TDNAM
ihqy.com $28 06/12/2008 SnapNames
ikfy.com $110 06/12/2008 SnapNames
YMNY.com $200 06/12/2008 NamePros
ytda.com $60 06/12/2008 SnapNames
iyki.com $90 06/11/2008 SnapNames
ynca.com $2736 06/06/2008 NameJet
ingy.com $691 06/02/2008 NameJet
ilgy.com $100 06/01/2008 NameJet
CVVC:
coaf.com $850 07/17/2008 NameJet
faim.com $2214 07/17/2008 SnapNames
raom.com $510 07/12/2008 Sedo
hoyd.com $333 07/11/2008 NameJet
HeyB.com $251 07/10/2008 Sedo
hiin.com $1,550 07/10/2008 Sedo
ceux.com $1,657 07/09/2008 Sedo
nuyq.com $24 07/07/2008 NamePros
luyh.com $75 07/04/2008 TDNAM
yeod.com $100 07/04/2008 BQB
fioc.com $511 07/02/2008 NameJet
xiys.com $42 07/02/2008 TDNAM
zyir.com $42 07/02/2008 TDNAM
coag.com $710 07/01/2008 Sedo
tuez.com $206 07/01/2008 SnapNames
duup.com $419 06/30/2008 TDNAM
duup.com $414 06/30/2008 TDNAM
soih.com $365 06/30/2008 Sedo
wyyv.com $22 06/30/2008 BQB
fuor.com $10,000 06/29/2008 Afternic
CVVC (containing Y):
hoyd.com $333 07/11/2008 NameJet
HeyB.com $251 07/10/2008 Sedo
nuyq.com $24 07/07/2008 NamePros
luyh.com $75 07/04/2008 TDNAM
yeod.com $100 07/04/2008 BQB
xiys.com $42 07/02/2008 TDNAM
zyir.com $42 07/02/2008 TDNAM
wyyv.com $22 06/30/2008 BQB
noyz.com $785 06/21/2008 NameJet
jyet.com $101 06/18/2008 SnapNames
zyig.com $60 06/18/2008 TDNAM
koyq.com $50 06/09/2008 TDNAM
nyyq.com $94 06/09/2008 TDNAM
muys.com $398 06/08/2008 NameJet
piyq.com $39 06/08/2008 TDNAM
JYOF.com $30 06/07/2008 NamePros
tiyj.com $39 06/07/2008 TDNAM
xyir.com $50 06/06/2008 TDNAM
deyq.com $57 06/02/2008 TDNAM
As a general rule, 2 Y’s in the same CVCV is something you’d like to try and stya away from if possible. As can be seen above, Y’s often result in very strong sales, regardless of their consonant/vowel status in CVCV type LLLL.coms, however it’s best to stick with a CVCY pattern for maximum enduser and reseller potential. If offered 2 comparable CVCV, the one without a “Y” is usually a better choice.
These same basic principals can be applied to other pronounceable categories. The “Radio Test” really is the best way to get a good idea of whether your LLLL.com is pronounceable or not. If your LLLL.com was mentioned on the radio, would listeners be able to spell it without difficulty? It’s better to ask other people than to try and determine this yourself — most of us will be inherently biased towards our own LLLL.coms.
In general, the best performing letters are: A, S, E, M, D, I, T, O. Other strong letters include F, G, H. The letters J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z are referred as non-premium letters. The presence of one of these letters considerably devalues a 4 letter .com under most circumstances. Of these, Q, X, Z are the weakest.
Certain letters perform better in certain positions than others. The letter “I” for instance is a particularly strong ending letter which stands as an acronym for many commonly used words such as International, Incorporated, Industries,… C,I,L make stronger ending letters than they typically are elsewhere in an LLLL.com. A and O are strong in either the starting or ending position and S is stronger in the starting position. This is by no means an exhaustive list, merely examples of letters which perform better in particular positions.
Always Consider:
Pronounceability (does it pass the radio test?)
Memorability
Brandability
Likelihood of an existing or future enduser
Traffic/Revenue
Anything which differentiates it from other LLLL.coms

Definitions:
C = Character. When seen in a domain name listing, the number of C’s refers to the number of characters in a domain name. In the domain name industry, the term Character refers to either a Letter of the
English alphabet (A-Z) or a Number (0-9). A domain with many characters may have both many letters and many numbers.
L = Letter. When seen is a domain name listing, the number of L’s refers to the number of letters in a domain name.
N = Number. When seen in a domain name listing, the number of N’s refers to the number of numbers in a domain name.
Premium LLLL.com: A premium domain name is a domain name composed exclusively of letters: A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,L,M,N,O,P,R,S,T. These letters are referred to as “premium letters”. A premium LLLL.com is, in other words, an LLLL.com devoid of the letters: J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z. These letters are commonly referred to as non-premium letters. The letters J,K,U,V,W,Y are considered by most domain investors to be of higher quality than the letters Q,X,Z. The letters: J,K,U,V,W,Y are commonly referred to as “semi-premium” letters, whereas Q,X,Z are referred to as “bad letters”. These terms are used strictly in a reseller setting and currently hold the largest weight in the 3 and 4 letter markets. More information on premium letters and premium domains will be provided in the 4 letter (LLLL) .com section which is included below.
As a general rule, Characters can be represented by Letters or Numbers. A 3 letter .com (LLL.com) is also considered a 3 Character .com (CCC.com). Likewise, a 2 number .com (NN.com) is also considered a 2 Character .com. Because LLL.coms and NNN.coms are so popular, we list them separately on BQB in their own categories visible on the BQB homepage. The following are industry terms used on BQB and an explanation of their meaning.
2 Characters
LL = 2 Letter .com. Two Letters from A-Z. They may be the same letter or different letters. Examples include: AA.com, BC.com, DJ.com, MX.com, YQ.com.
LN = Letter-Number .com. One Letter from A-Z followed by One Number from 0-9. Examples include: A1.com, B9.com, X2.com, Y5.com.
NL = Number-Letter .com. One Number from 0-9 followed by One Letter from A-Z. Examples include: 1A.com, 9B.com, 2X.com, 5Y.com. Notice the difference in letter-number placement between an LN.com and an NL.com.
NN = 2 Number .com. Two Numbers from 0-9. They may be the same or different numbers. Examples include 11.com, 21.com, 47.com, 90.com.
3 Characters
LLL = 3 Letter .com. Contains 3 Letters from A-Z. Examples include: AAB.com, ABC.com, JHD.com, OOO.com.
LLN = Letter-Letter-Number .com. Two Letters from A-Z followed by One Number from 0-9. Examples include: JH7.com, KL4.com, MM8.com, ZX2.com.
LNL = Letter-Number-Letter .com. One Letter from A-Z followed by One Number from 0-9, which is followed by One Letter from A-Z. Examples include: B2B.com, G4S.com, B3G.com, Y2K.com.
LNN =Letter-Number-Number .com. One Letter from A-Z followed by Two Numbers from 0-9. Examples include: C93.com, D22.com, B16.com, W40.com.
NLL =Number-Letter-Letter .com. One Number from 0-9 followed by Two Letters from A-Z. Examples include: 4DD.com, 3NT.com, 7WJ.com, 9QS.com.
NLN = Number-Letter-Number .com. One Number from 0-9 followed by One Letter from A-Z, which is followed by One Number from 0-9. Examples include: 2D4.com, 5Y7.com, 6R1.com, 3F2.com.
NNL = Number-Number-Letter .com. Two Numbers from 0-9 followed by One Letter from A-Z. Examples include: 40A.com 66V.com, 75J.com, 91R.com.
NNN = 3 Number .com. Contains 3 Numbers from 0-9. Examples include: 123.com, 300.com, 444.com, 747.com. 4 Characters
LLLL = 4 Letter .com. Contains 4 Letters from A-Z. Below we define different types of 4 Letter .coms.
Anti-Premium: A domain name that contains only non-premium letters. An anti-premium domain is a domain which is composed strictly of letters: J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z. The term Anti-Premium is most commonly applied to 4 Letter .coms, however it also makes a good adjective to describe the 3 letter crap selling near min wholesale as well. Examples of Anti-Premium LLL.coms include: YXZ.com, VKQ.com, XZW.com, QKU.com. Examples of Anti-Premium LLLL.coms include: WKQU.com, XYQZ.com, YQUW.com, KQJV.com.
Anti-Premium LLLL.coms are the lowest quality LLLL.coms on the market and are generally among the cheapest.
Single Premium: We use this term to refer LLLL.coms containing only one premium letter. Examples of Single Premium LLLL.coms include: JHXZ.com, UQTX.com, WQUE.com, EUWJ.com.
Double Premium: We use this term to refer to LLLL.coms containing two premium letters. Examples of Double Premium LLLL.coms include: ASWQ.com, BJKT.com, WVMG.com, HWRZ.com.
Triple Premium: We use this term to refer to LLLL.coms containing three premium letters. Examples of Triple Premium LLLL.coms include: ASDX.com, POSW.com, NWOO.com, XEEB.com. LLL.coms containing three premium letters are commonly referred to as “Premium LLL.coms”. Examples include: SAS.com, RTN.com, NPG.com, RSS.com.
Quad Premium: We use this term to refer to LLLL.coms containing four premium letters. Examples of Quad Premium LLLL.coms include: AAAL.com, FFLE.com, MNGO.com, GHPR.com.
Pronounceables
CVCV = A 4 letter .com domain name which follows a Consonant-Vowel-Consonant-Vowel letter pattern. CVCVs are generally extremely pronounceable and are among the most valuable LLLL.coms. Examples include: MELO.com, MOFO.com, ZENE.com, LUMI.com. Many CVCVs are actual words in English or in another language and that partly contributes to their high valuations, on top of their immense brandability and obvious enduser potential.
CVVC = A 4 letter .com domain name which follows a Consonant-Vowel-Vowel-Consonant letter pattern. Examples include: NOOL.com, ROOX.com, BEER.com, MOOT.com.
VCCV = A 4 letter .com domain name which follows a Vowel-Consonant-Consonant-Vowel letter pattern. Examples include: ADDA.com, ELLO.com, INGE.com, UGFO.com
VCVC = A 4 letter .com domain name which follows a Vowel-Consonant-Vowel-Consonant letter pattern. VCVCs are often among the most pronounceable and desirable LLLL.coms, right up there with CVCVs. Examples include: OPAL.com, ONEX.com, ILEC.com, UQEN.com.
Rares
AABB = A 4 letter .com domain name which contains only 2 different letters, where “A” and “B” symbolically represent two different letters from A-Z. Examples include: CCDD.com, DDJJ.com, MMXX.com, ZZGG.com.
ABAB = A 4 letter .com domain name which contains only 2 different letters, where “A” and “B” symbolically represent two different letters from A-Z. Examples include: CDCD.com, DJDJ.com, MXMX.com, ZGZG.com.
Palindromes = A 4 letter .com domain name which contains only 2 different letters from A-Z. Examples include: CDDC.com, DJJD.com, MXXM.com, ZGGZ.com. Palindromes are commonly referred to ABBA-type LLLL.coms.
Triple Letter = An LLLL.com containing three of the same letter. These are sometimes referred to as Triple letter repeats in the case it is of an AAAB or BAAA letter pattern. Examples include: SSSJ.com, SWWW.com, HHGH.com, IJII.com. Notice how each of these examples showcases the Triple Letter LLLL.com differently. These are all considered Triple Letter LLLL.coms.
VVVV = A 4 letter .com domain name which contains four vowels. Examples include: AEIO.com, EUOU.com, IOUI.com, EAUU.com.
5L.coms
CVCCV = A 5 letter .com domain name which follows a Consonant-Vowel-Consonant-Consonant-Vowel letter pattern. CVCCVs are among the most popular 5L.com domain names which are registered and resold today. Examples include: RORRE.com, FOGGE.com, ZINNE.com, VISTA.com.
CVCVC = A 5 letter .com domain name which follows a Consonant-Vowel-Consonant-Vowel-Consonant letter pattern. CVCVCs are essentially CVCVs with an additional consonant at the end. Examples include: FALES.com, FIRAL.com, SAGEP.com, LINUX.com.
CVCVV = A 5 letter .com domain name which follows a Consonant-Vowel-Consonant-Vowel-Vowel letter pattern. CVCVVs are essentially CVCVs with an additional vowel at the end. Examples include: RAGOO.com, PARIA.com, MELOO.com, MONEE.com.
CVVCV = A 5 letter .com domain name which follows a Consonant-Vowel-Vowel-Consonant-Vowel letter pattern. CVVCVs are CVCVs with an additional vowel included before the second consonant. Examples: ZOOME.com, ROOMI.com, PIECO.com, MOOLA.com.
VCVCV = A 5 letter .com domain name which follows a Vowel-Consonant-Vowel-Consonant-Vowel letter pattern. VCVCVs are essential VCVCs with an additional vowel at the end. Examples include: ATOMO.com, EFOTO.com, ISAMI.com, OSIRA.com.
Due to the high prices CVCVs and VCVCs have been seeing lately, many 5L.com investors see CVCCV, CVCVC, CVCVV, CVVCV, and VCVCV as five of the most promising 5L.com alternatives to brandable LLLL.coms which are rapidly increasing in price.

Wednesday, March 7, 2012

Picking Toby Clement's Brain at DOMAINfest 2012

$1 Million in Domain Sales in Three Months - With Toby Clements

Toby Clements opens brand new Section for Popular Domain Newsletter to Valued Domains

Toby Clements opened a new section to his hit daily domain newsletter, highlighting what he calls super high valued Domains.
His newsletter is a big success.
In Toby’s words, these are domains which have either, High CPC, Alexa Ranking, Generic Keyword Strength, are DMOZ Listed or all of the Above. All domains in this section are set to a firm buy now price of $250, plus escrow/transaction fees where applicable.

I have to admit I was immediately curious about the particular choice of words, Value Oriented. The term does make perfect sense in this context, but it also seemed somehow deliberate. I have heard of stocks referred to as value oriented before, and similarly this new section of the newsletter is meant to map this type of value investing. At $250, the price is intended to be low relative to the potential end-user resale value.

As it turns out, the companion domain name ValueOrientedDomains.com was also registered two days prior to the newsletter announcement, on February 13th, and now forwards to TobyClements.com.

I would speculate that if this section of the newsletter proves profitable we may see an offshoot ecommerce website emerge to facilitate transactions and provide additional marketing. Toby has been what I would call very dynamic in his approach to building his domain sales channel, and I wish him best of luck in whatever form this new endeavor takes

As many of you know Toby Clements has a very popular domain newsletter. A newsletter he ran originally with Rick Latona and now by himself. This morning we all received the following.

All,

If you are a serious buyer of domains, please read this text. If you have ever lost a domain purchase because of a slow reply, this message is for you.

For years I have had people ask me to send them my daily list of names early so they can get a jump on the competition. Basically, shoot them the list of names for the following day so they can cherry pick from the list. I have always turned people down in order to keep everything fair and balanced.

Well, a friend of mine asked me today if I would show him my list for tomorrow and when I said no he said that he would pay me a set fee for the year if he could see every newsletter early. Right away, I realized that there is a demand for this; therefore I have decided to make an exclusive “Pre Release” group to fill the need.

We have decided to make a very limited Pre Release Group that will initially consist of only 50 people. This VIP group will get our newsletter by 6pm ET the day before the launch. It will have all the names and prices, therefore you will have the shot of buying the names quicker than most.

If you are a regular buyer of mine then there is no question that you have missed deals being we sell names so quickly. This simple solution can help fix that problem. You will still need to be quick, but only quicker than 49 other people rather than over 15,000 of them.

The subscription fee is only $1,000 per year and for this you will get the newsletter over 15 hours before everyone outside of this group.

If you buy one name in the year it will pay for itself.

Remember that we have over 15,000 subscribers and we are only starting with 50 people. The first 50 people that reply to this are the winners. The rest will be put on a waiting list. Sorry, we have to do this, but its only fair to those that act first.

Regards,
Toby Clements

I have to admit the first thing I did was laugh. I laughed because I knew he was about to get blasted with emails from a bunch of pissed off people. Nobody likes to get a picked over list and especially dislike the thought that you either pay $1000 or you get the leftover domains. I’m speaking from opinion here but I’ve always assumed it’s already been picked over by the time it goes out anyway. I know how the domain industry works. Friends and family always get first look before things go out. If I have someone that buys every insurance domain I have and someone sends in an insurance domain for my list, I’d be crazy not to call him first. It’s not unethical, it’s good business. But 50 people? That’s a little too much picking over.

Toby has built his domain sales BECAUSE he has 15,000 people on his list. By giving special privileges to paying members he was jeopardizing the other 14,950 people on the list. In my opinion the success of the letter is built on the quantity of people in addition to the quality. Toby instantly got the message and sent out this email 4 hours later.

All,

This morning we announced plans to offer an exclusive pre release membership. We have had an astounding amount of feedback on this membership and after much discussion have decided not to follow through with this. Most of you have voiced your opinions on why it is and isn’t a good idea and after weighing all opinions we feel it is better for all of our subscribers to not implement this membership.

Regards,
Toby Clements

It was a good lesson for anyone following the emails. In a desire to further monetize a business make sure you don’t unmonetize your core.

Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Domains listed for sale March 06 2012

You’ve probably read that I had the pleasure of working with Francois trying to put together a list of domains to sell that we released today. After putting together my first list, I now realize that it’s a tough deal. And I was the one that was stupid enough to ask if I could help. I did it to learn more about putting together an auction or a sales list for the future in which I hope to organize more of these type of events. And learn I did. Here’s what I learned.

1. With a domainer to domainer letter, one of the hardest parts of the process is just getting people to participate and offer names for sale. Nobody likes the thought of selling a name to anyone but an end user. Like most Type A domain investors, they hate the thought of selling to another investor who turns and immediately flips it. In reality, if they would have been able to do it themselves they already would have.

2. There are quite a few people that have bad names but still think they are good. I realize that some people were just trying to get rid of some lesser quality names and that’s understandable, but they countered that thinking by putting a price tag of thousands of dollars.

3. There are a lot of alt tld in people’s portfolios. Some people are still banking on the dot cos.

4. Keeping up with the weekly sales numbers is invaluable with pricing domains and knowing which ones to put at auction. The quality is of no value if the price on it is out of line and the more knowledge you have of that relationship the better chance you have of picking a final list that moves. Easier said than done. Toby Clements probably as good of grasp on this as anyone in the business.

5. Speaking of Toby, there is a reason why sales people try and get the price down. It’s obvious The seller wants it as cheap as possible so he can sell it and make his commission. This is where the seller has to figure out whether the list maker is trying to make it easier to get his commission or you really do have it priced too high.

6. Everyone thinks their domain was better than the ones that were picked.

7. Someone is always going to think they could have done a better job and will criticize.

8. There is a great deal of satisfaction getting a name sold and not just the money. It’s like a game and you get points when you sell something. It’s very fulfilling.

I look forward to trying this again and I would like to thank Francois and Domaining.com for letting me be a part. And to all of you , don’t hate, participate.

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